[Request] Waffen SS Formations in Beligum Sept 1944

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Looking for any OOB grogs.

Currently about to pass my Joe's Bridge scenario to some volunteer testers when I came across a little tidbit of information about the formations in Belgium in late August and early September 1944. German OOB info around this time is a nightmare given the chaos and confusion going on with the retreat from Normandy but I'm very confident I've named my German units correctly based on reports of what forces were fighting the XXX Corps advance in this part of Belgium.

The one component I'm missing is information of the makeup of the garrison force at Lommel to the west of the famous Joe's Bridge. What I do know is this was used as a staging point for forces still fighting around Gheel to the south and was also the most likely jumping off point for the counter attack against the Irish Guards holding Joe's Bridge on the 11th of September. (Multiple allied sources state counter attacks came from this direction). I also know there was an incident where SS troops used locals as hostages within Lommel before being forces to withdraw.

My question is does anyone know which parent unit this SS unit was from? Given they made up part of the infantry force operating in the area it is a good chance they also contributed the infantry component to the counter attack on the bridge. The only other option was additional HG Training Regiment Fallschirmjager but they were already fully engaged east and south of Joe's Bridge at this time according to my research.

Any help greatly appreciated.
 
Not quite what you asked for - but I stumbled on this - naturally you may already have this...

Re the initial capture of the bridge...

15.00-16.30hrs
The two Bns move up the left CL, a disused railway, and reformed N of the station 335861 in the order: No. 1 Sqn (Major D.A. PEEL) and No. 2 Coy (Capt. A. HENDRY) combined HQs, No. 3 Coy and No. 3 Sqn, No. 4 Coy and No. 2 Sqn, and No. 1 Coy in reserve on the backs of ARVs, Honeys and any odd vehicle.

Our orders were to harbour in EXEL, which was reached and found clear at 16.00hrs . Almost at once further orders came to push on N to OVERPELT by a German military road and try to seize the main bridge at GROOTE BARRIER which was not yet blown, before dark. The HCR ahead had reported the road clear as far as the factory, where a patrol was observing the bridge. This was strongly defended by 88s and prepared for demolition.

The Commanding Officer immediately dispatched a Honey patrol to contact the HCR at the factory 3(?)51955 with all speed and ordered the column to advance NORTH.

19.45hrs
The HCR patrol was contacted and reported the bridge still not blown, and confirmed the presence of at least 2 88s on the N side of the bridge. Major PEEL’s Squadron after a very fast drive halted just short of the factory to close up and receive orders. The Commanding Officer stressed the great importance for future preparations of capturing the bridge intact, and ordered Major PEEL to attack and rush it a soon as possible. Being out of range either of the guns or the wireless we could have no artillery support.

Major PEEL then moved his Squadron up to the factory gates, debussed the infantry Coy, and rightly appreciating that any guns defending the bridge would be sited either on or near its N end or at the X rds S of it 353956 made his plan accordingly. The leading Troop No. 3, Lt. LAMPARD’s was to patrol slowly forward, towards the X rds accompanied by its infantry platoon (Lt J STANLEY-CLARKE) while the rest of the Squadron took up position at the bend of the road, Sqn HQ firing W to the X rds and No. 2 Troop Sjt BELL and No. 1 Troop L/Sjt SMITH firing at the bridge and it approaches. All tanks were ordered to keep up heavy Browning and HE fire, to discourage the German gunners. Covered by Sqn HQ, Lt. LAMPARD’s troop moved up towards the X rds and got his tanks into position 30 yds short of it to observe and fire on the bridge.

Major D.A. PEEL then dismounted and agreed with the Coy Commander that the leading troop and Platoon should rush the bridge, and if successful be followed across by the rest of the Group. He ordered Lt. D. LAMPARD to make his own plan with Lt. STANLEY-CLARKE.

Meanwhile Lt. D LAMPARD caught an 88 being towed across the bridge and knocked it out.

Another gun opened fire on him from the N end of the bridge but without effect. He then moved is troop up to the X rds and place his tanks among the houses on both sides of the road. L/Sjt McGURREN’s tank left, Sjt STEER’s and his own right. His fourth tank got a jammed case and had to withdraw from the action. As L/Sjt McGURREN crossed the road a third 88 fired on him from the cutting W of the bridge missed and merely got a heavy burst of Browning in return.

As Lt. D. LAMPARD’s rear and left were now secure, Sqn HQ switched its fire to the bridge, which now had 11 tanks shooting at it. Lt. LAMPARD dismounted and agreed with Lt. STANLEY-CLARKE to cover his platoon up the main road to within 100 yards of the bridge, when a GREEN VEREY light would be fired. This was a signal for all guns to fire only on the bridge; and when the infantry were ready for the final assault a RED VEREY light would be fired as a signal for all fire to cease and the leading tanks to charge.

It was 20.30hrs when the infantry moved down the road, took up their paositon and fired the GREEN VEREY light. For two minutes very heavy Browning fire came down on the bridge, which was now lit up by a house blazing on the right. The RED VEREY light went up and the tanks charged. L/Sjt McGURREN’s hit the corner of a house and stuck, so only Sjt STEER’s leading and Lt. LAMPARD’s actually did the assault. They went flat out, past the front section, over the bridge and halted in posn the N side. The infantry doubled close behind, came under fire Spandau on the road which was quickly knocked out by the Sherman and lay down around the tanks.

The ammunition of the knocked out 88 now began exploding on the bridge, but Major PEEL at once ordered the rest of the group to join Lt. LAMPARD on the far side. A Sapper officer Lt. HUTTON, with a party of 4 Guardsmen from 3rd Bn, followed the leading platoon, and climbed over the side of the bridge to cut the cables and remove the detonators of the charges on the piers.

The Commanding Officer then sent No. 3 Sqn and No. 3 Coy to reinforce No. 1 Sqn with all speed and take up position on the left of the road. The Combined HQ and reserve Sqn and Coys meanwhile formed a hedgehog between X rds and the S end of the bridge.

We then reported back on the HCR link that the bridge was captured intact and securely held and our success caused great joy in Higher Formations.
The Bns dug in for the night, awaiting a counter attack. But none came - not even a shell or mortar bomb.

Two unhappy prisoners of War captured by No. 1 Sqn from the infantry platoon that was supposed to protect the 88s said that the speed of our attack and advance had taken the gun crews, who were expecting their tank not ours that evening, completely by surprise. The fate of their fellow comrades on the bridge and the very heavy Browning and HE fire first put them off their aim and then made them remove to a safer if less heroic place. The Serjeant in charge of the demolition squad, in spite of a stirring speech he had made to the garrison earlier in the day that “the bridge must and will be blown” “that every man fights to the last round”, was one of the first to leave, forgetting to press the switch. Their officer had fled the day before - again after some bellicose words.

Though the enemy made no attempt even to harass us in the night, at 08.00hrs next morning 11th SEPTEMBER reports came in of 6 Sps and a Coy of infantry W of the bridge in the village of de LUYKEN 3395. Suddenly an SP gun opened fire on the Recce Tp just by 2nd Bn HQ, while another shot down the road to the X rds past 3rd Bn HQ. The first tow shots killed 7 and wounded several of the Recce Tp, including Lt. B.C.P. WARREN and the Adjutant Capt. R.S. LANGTON who was helpting to carry a stretcher. This gun was quickly spotted in a field some 500 yds away and engaged by Major D.A. PEEL, who chanced to be at Bn HQ at the time and climbed aboard ST. PATRICK for the fight. He hit the gun 4 times and brewed it up, though half the honour is claimed by a FIREFLY of No. 3 Sqn which also fired from N of the canal. The second retired and took cover in the gardens further WEST. A lull followed during which the Recce Tanks moved out of the exposed field and drove down to the embankment by the bridge. On the way two were hit by the second SP gun, which opened fire again and one driver was wounded.

Major D.A. PEEL then handed over ST PATRICK to Lt. K.R. BRIANT, and went forward to observe for Major D.N.L. GORDON-WATSON in ULSTER. On his way through a garden he had the great misfortune to be dangerously wounded by another round from the SP, which still could not be spotted. Lt. BRIANT moved to ST PATRICK up towards the bridge trying to get a line on it, but again was seen first and ST PATRICK went up in flames. No-one was hurt.

After this the enemy withdrew and though one or two shots came from the houses, no more damage was done. Some prisoners brought in by 3rd Bn, said that about 1 Coy of mixed SS and infantry with some sappers and 6 Sps had been ordered to retake and blow the bridge. Their attack failed miserably and 3 more Sps were caught in the flank by a GRENADIER column working up from the SOUTH. The others were shelled by medium guns in de LUYKEN an hour later and heard of no more.

The rest of the day was quiet. In the afternoon 6 Typhoons attacked enemy withdrawing over the bridge at LOMMEL and destroyed the bridge. COLDSTREAM GROUP reinforced our positions with 2 Coys of 5 COLDM GUARDS over the river and 1 Sqn of 1 COLDM GDS in support S. While No. 2 Motor Coy, of 1 MOT GREN GDS took up an outpost position a mile ahead of us.

In the evening all slept soundly and undisturbed still without mortaring or shelling.


So re the Waffens - no doubt like you I have found lots of tracks and traces - nothing definite. I have read that Leibstandarte pulled out through this area, in early September, but were ordered away on the 4th for refit. The other interesting one I found was the Dutch SS unit Landstorm (34th SS Volunteer Grenadier Div) 2 battalions of which were initially fighting around the Merksem and Hasselt area.

I will have another dig at some point - but hope this is of interest - all good stuff...
 
Yes I know about the SS Landstorm Nederland division. Two battalions were sent south of the canal with one of them fighting in the vicinity of Hechtel and Hasselt against the British Guards Armoured. The other fought further west near Geel I think. Possibly this one around Geel could have retreated via Lommel which was used as bit of a staging point for German forces of KG Chill. Both Battalions retreated back into Holland and weren't the best front line fighters nor the best equipped.

A seperate source I've just been given thanks to @Ulf Norman would suggest additional Fallschirmjager forces made the counterattacks with the StuG's. However all the other sources I've read suggests these forces (under the Herman Goering Panzer Training Regiment) were actually already engaged or undertaking Holland defense work at the time.
 
What I've seen in the paper on KG Chill: the two SS Landstorm Nederland batallions, the I. battalion was near Hecthel and Hasselt as you mention, the II. battalion is only mentioned about arriving in the area (page 73) but it doesn't show up in the Geel battle either, so its a little of a mystery where it was fighting, if anywhere. Then there's a company of Pioneers from Leibstandarte being part of a KG Vehrenkamp counterattacking the bridge at Beringen (page 79 and 100), and lastly the 17. and 18. battery of the SS-Artillerie Ersatz und Ausbildung Regiment (page 89). That's all the Waffen SS units I've seen mentioned in that source.
 
Found this:
"On 5 September 10th SS Panzer Division was ordered to Arhem to refit, after detaching a Panzergrenadier battalion to help contain the British bridge-head over the Meuse-Escaut Canal at Neerpelt. The 9th SS followed two days later after detaching units to Kampfgruppe Walther." Arnhem 1944: Buckingham.

in this thread http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=729790

Further down:

The book says the same for kg Walther. Walther however does not fit the bill for Geel. Walther was organised somewhat later. This is what it says:
Reinhard ordered Hauptman Wagner to investigate the Neerpelt area. He discovered a mass of fleeing germans troops but no substantial force in place.
So Student ordered major Kerutt with his battalion to take up position at the bridgehead around 12 september. To support him the 9ss and 10 ss detached some units and formed the Sperrverband Heinke. Both units dug in; Kerutt to the west of the Eindhoven road(thus bordering on Chill), Heinke to the east. In addition the 6 fallschirmjaeger regiment under von der Heydte was directed to this area. All three where put under command of Colonel Erich Walther.
Walther did not exist at the counterattack near Geel. His command was only operational around 10/12 September.

So seems the Frundsberg panzergrenadiers weren't in the area until the 12th?
 
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Found this:

September 1944, inzet in België.

SS-Grenadier-Regiment Landstorm Nederland was slecht en licht bewapend en had totaal geen frontervaring. Dit laatste zou in september 1944 veranderen toen Britse troepen het Albert-kanaal in Noord-België dreigden over te steken. Zo snel mogelijk werden de eerste twee Bataillonen naar het gebied gestuurd (het III./ bleef in Roermond omdat de opleiding nog niet voltooid was). Het II./SS-Grenadier-Regiment Landstorm Nederland werd in Merksem geplaatst, het I./SS-Grenadier-Regiment Landstorm Nederland nam in Hasselt de verdedigingsposities in. Bij Hasselt stuitte het II./ op landgenoten van de Prinses Irene Brigade die aan geallieerde zijde vocht. De Landstormers konden de opmars niet stuiten en moesten al snel de terugtocht aanvaarden. Halverwege oktober arriveerde de eenheid weer op de Veluwe.

at http://www.waffen-ss.nl/lstormgesch.php

Don't read Dutch but it seems II./Landstorm Nederland was placed in Merksem, and later clashed with the also Dutch Princess Irene Brigade near Hasselt. Could make an interesting little scenario in itself? One would have to use the British for the Irene Brigade, I reckon.

@Dutch Grenadier have you heard of the encounter above?
 
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