As the title says. Anyone got one handy. Preferably from 1944. 
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Seeking - Carentan 1:25,000 Topographic map
- Thread starter Ithikial
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Yeah the first one is what I'm after but any idea how to download it as a JPEG keeping high resolution/detail.
I was able to rip it from the site. Here's a download link (it's an 11 mb jpeg unzipped): https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66606021/carentan.zip
Edited to add that I also found a 1:2,500 map of Carentan proper on that site too: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66606021/carentan2.zip
Edit 2: Here's the same 1:25,000 Carentan map as above but with defenses marked on it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66606021/carentan3.zip
Edited to add that I also found a 1:2,500 map of Carentan proper on that site too: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66606021/carentan2.zip
Edit 2: Here's the same 1:25,000 Carentan map as above but with defenses marked on it: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66606021/carentan3.zip
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In addition to the Carentan topo map, I also grabbed a bunch of the other relevant Normandy maps I found on that British Library site. Couldn't help it. I love maps. Maybe you or someone else will find them useful.
1:100,000
Caen-Falaise Area
1:50,000
Aunay-Sur-Odon
Caen
Cruelly*
Dunkerque
Falaise
Flers
Isigny*
Lisieux*
Mortain
St. Lo
St. Pierre-Sur-Dives
Vire
1:25,000
Franceville-Plage*
Isigny (Has the eastern part of Carentan, also with defenses)*
Ouistreham*
Ste. Mere Eglise
St. Pierre-Du-Mont*
Edit: Added a few more, denoted with a *.
1:100,000
Caen-Falaise Area
1:50,000
Aunay-Sur-Odon
Caen
Cruelly*
Dunkerque
Falaise
Flers
Isigny*
Lisieux*
Mortain
St. Lo
St. Pierre-Sur-Dives
Vire
1:25,000
Franceville-Plage*
Isigny (Has the eastern part of Carentan, also with defenses)*
Ouistreham*
Ste. Mere Eglise
St. Pierre-Du-Mont*
Edit: Added a few more, denoted with a *.
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Rambler sir, you are a bloody legend.
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Mehlsack
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same here...
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Odin
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Nice maps Rambler.
How's your Canadian Normandy campaign going Ithikial?
How's your Canadian Normandy campaign going Ithikial?
Doing AI plans and tweaking briefings. Then got to do a campaign script file.
I do what I canRambler sir, you are a bloody legend.
. Glad they'll be able to help you out.
It's an idea for after the Carpiquet project. Little bit peeved that there isn't a solid Battle for Carentan campaign or at least a master map of the region. Also surprised no one has actually taken it on. 'Undercover Geek' on the BF forums took it on years ago but doesn't look like it ever got finished and judging by old forum posts it was out of kilter by a long way with maps of the day. Guessing this work was done before the map overlay feature's introduction to the editor.
There is a Battle for Carentan H2H scenario that was released (Undercover Geek?) but the map does appear to be missing bits and pieces and the units used aren't really historically accurate, particularly for the fighting inside the town itself.
Call me stubborn but also keen to try again and get a communal map making project going to see if it's a viable idea and makes map making a bit easier by sharing the workload.
Basic premise:
- One person sets out the borders of what is to be mapped (works out the overlay and creates scaled map in the editor etc)
- Users share a dropbox and work on the same .btt file at different times with a basic check in check out system.
- Each helper works on a specific portion of the map, so one person may center around Carentan north approach/entrance, another may do Dead Man's Corner etc.
- Chance for people to look at each others map making techniques and tricks of the trade.
So any volunteers interested in helping?
There is a Battle for Carentan H2H scenario that was released (Undercover Geek?) but the map does appear to be missing bits and pieces and the units used aren't really historically accurate, particularly for the fighting inside the town itself.
Call me stubborn but also keen to try again and get a communal map making project going to see if it's a viable idea and makes map making a bit easier by sharing the workload.
Basic premise:
- One person sets out the borders of what is to be mapped (works out the overlay and creates scaled map in the editor etc)
- Users share a dropbox and work on the same .btt file at different times with a basic check in check out system.
- Each helper works on a specific portion of the map, so one person may center around Carentan north approach/entrance, another may do Dead Man's Corner etc.
- Chance for people to look at each others map making techniques and tricks of the trade.
So any volunteers interested in helping?
@Ithikial
Still interested in helping in a mapping / campaign project, my Melone map for your Ortona project is still sitting on my PC, half finished.
But what would be required is actual, active coordination of the whole effort.
Also, multiple users working on the same map could be difficult, since it increases the required coordination effort. Maybe you could do it with three to four people, then define a "reference time zone" (e.g. UTC +/- 00:00, aka UK time) and divide the day in slots (8 hours, 6 hours) for people to work on the map. This could work well, since we are quite an international bunch. With you being in Australia, me in Europe and maybe a third person in America it would "naturally" deconflict access to one file.
For a versioning system, we could try "Subversion" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Subversion).
This might be a little over the top since we wouldn't work concurrently on a map file, but it would also avoid confusion as to which file is the latest version etc.
With dropbox, this would have to be ensured manually. In my professional experience, this is always a recipe for desaster or at least avoidable confusion.
Still interested in helping in a mapping / campaign project, my Melone map for your Ortona project is still sitting on my PC, half finished.
But what would be required is actual, active coordination of the whole effort.
Also, multiple users working on the same map could be difficult, since it increases the required coordination effort. Maybe you could do it with three to four people, then define a "reference time zone" (e.g. UTC +/- 00:00, aka UK time) and divide the day in slots (8 hours, 6 hours) for people to work on the map. This could work well, since we are quite an international bunch. With you being in Australia, me in Europe and maybe a third person in America it would "naturally" deconflict access to one file.
For a versioning system, we could try "Subversion" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Subversion).
This might be a little over the top since we wouldn't work concurrently on a map file, but it would also avoid confusion as to which file is the latest version etc.
With dropbox, this would have to be ensured manually. In my professional experience, this is always a recipe for desaster or at least avoidable confusion.
Got some help from a reliable experienced map maker already and we're working out the guts of the project. More soon. This could be happening quicker than I expected.
The dropbox idea is simple and doesn't require more software for peoples computers. Probably wouldn't want to go above 4 people though.
This could be happening quicker than I expected.The dropbox idea is simple and doesn't require more software for peoples computers. Probably wouldn't want to go above 4 people though.
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Bill
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Thanks Rambler.
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Tyson Pearsall
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Any chance you know of some maps of the Hurtgen Forest area during the Westwall assault? Trying to do some scenarios (very slowly) of Vossenack, Kommerscheidt, and Schmidt. I've found some on ibiblio.org, but was hoping for some more detailed/topographical maps. There are also a few recon plane shots of the area as well but I'd still have to do rough guesses for the topography of the area/borrow from google maps current locations as well.
Hey Tyson, sorry man, I sure don't. I just uploaded what I found on that link Nathan posted.
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Tyson Pearsall
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No sweat. Worth a shot. I can't find much outside of air reconnaissance photos and roughly overviews of the situation on various dates. Nothing for terrain or topography. Means I will have to take liberties with creating scenarios I guess.