Indeed. However in a food for though category I heard some one point out that if the problem is a few bad apples then why does the system seem so incapable of getting rid of them? It kind of stopped me short actually.
Yep. Oh I think there are a few people who say that but litterally no one listens to them because it's utterly ridiculous.
Yeah I don't think so. Since we are talking about police lets use that as an example. Frequently when an office is actually dismissed form a force for bad behaviour (the few times that actually happens) they just get rehired in the next jurisdiction. Until a few weeks ago the majority of the time the MO was to hide behind due process to run out the clock on the public's attention and then quietly let bad actors who got caught off and shuffle them to another location.
Yeah, as one pundit said "if you have to explain it - you have lost already". This idea to defund the police is just not going anywhere. If anything happens to reform how police forces operate, manage complaints and conduct themselves it will be call something else. Having said that if you listen to the reasonable people who are calling for that they really are asking for pretty sensible reforms. Not the abolish crown - their just living in a rainbow unicorn land.
Yeah, let's not do that. I don't think it will work out well.
Weird times for sure, but I believe we can navigate our way through.
Thought I'd share my thoughts while having my morning coffee.
These situations (and their solutions) are a bit complicated aren't they?
Many times the problem seems to be taking a 'good thing' too far, or oversimplifying things.
Take an article I read this morning (on the thunderbox - where I do some of my best research).
There's a hospital here which is embroiled in a big fight, essentially between 2 generations of doctors.
Some of the older generation of doctors are too aggressive, and many have been accused of bullying and harassment.
By the sounds of it, there were indeed some guys who were being extremely obnoxious and unprofessional.
They have come under scrutiny, and probably rightly so.
Remember all the publicity about the 'Hazing' of young trainees in the military and other professions/trades years ago?
No one should have to put up with that kind of bullshit for a job.
But there are other senior doctors and specialists who have been accused (seemingly by a minority) for quite minor stuff.
They too have been dragged into the gaping maw of 'human resources' - who are often just bureaucrats protecting the legal interests of their corporation.
Many are quitting rather than suffer the humiliation of trying to prove themselves innocent.
Take the protests against racism, in America and around the world at the moment.
My speculation is that 80% of people are genuinely trying to make positive change in the world.
Maybe 10% are way too aggressive and just looking for a fight.
5% are opportunistic looters who want to steal. 5% are provocateurs looking to push their shady agendas.
Many times it's the minority that get the media spotlight.
Plenty of examples of people taking things too far and vilifying all police - the very same 'paint everyone with erroneous assumptions' thing.
These problems in general seem to stem from a childish need to oversimplify; an all or nothing perception. It's more complex than that.
The last thing I want to mention is the concept of crybabies and 'safe spaces' and all that.
I've heard it mentioned many times...but I've never directly seen it in action.
I'm starting to think it may be an urban myth, or a fringe minority in certain cultures?
Yeah, let's not do that. I don't think it will work out well.
“Free healthcare” isn’t free, at least to me. Please refer to it a “Taxpayer funded healthcare“
I know what you are saying, The criminal element back in the 40s and 50s did respect the police meaning if they got caught most times went peacefully, now a days all they want to do is beat the police up, as you know the UK police don't carry firearms they are available if called for, when I was a growing up in London as young boy we would hide from a policeman if we saw one we would freeze on the spot, the violence that goes on now as been created more so as time goes by into the modern day version of life, My growing up in London was far better the the Gangs and drug dealers, I loved London when I lived there, I wouldn't go back now for all the Tea in China
Well one of many good things today - awesome we can have a chat together from all around the world, on the internet. Seemed space-age in the 80's.
:cheerso:
Pretty much sums up how I feel.
I am daily viewer of the Tucker Carlson show and what I have sawn there regarding the occupied area in Seattle (Chaz "Nation") is very concerning. If you replace the regular police then self-declared and partisan "security forces and warlords will replace it. Not good. The utopians can be very dangerous and the dystopia is always near if the utopians try to implement their ideas.
Sounds Wonderful MateWell one of many good things today - awesome we can have a chat together from all around the world, on the internet. Seemed space-age in the 80's.
Wouldn't mind having a beer with you guys in person though...party at Hedgehog's house!
