Bah...totally wrong scale for my taste, several divisions in few hexes, surely the Battle for the Bulge and the Italian Campaign will be pretty scripted.
I played WitE and it was rather boring, beautiful OOB but the IGO-UGO system like a boardgame really hurt the game, even the old TOAW was better because if you make an action with a unit than all units spent the same amount of time, in WitE you can move a unit, attack and then move another unit to exploit the hole, think about this situation with all units around the map and the best palyer is the one that find the best combo.
Moreover is the game with the most gamey and ahistotical defence and attack ever seen, red carpet, HQ build up, chessboard and so on; strongpoint doesn't work because every turn is weekly per 10 km per hex
Be aware when the game will be released, WitE testers never end a full campaign, only AI vs AI, in fact this game has soffered lot of problems with balance, now I don't know but given that I don't want to play it anymore I miss the last news.
I actually agree with your points about IGO-UGO, also if you're just going by the forums for WitE, there are a lot of gamey exploits available .. since it's a game.
People with much more time on their hands than either you or me will always come up with strategies and exploits for any game system.
Oh yes, but what I mean is that to setup an effective defence you have to do gamey move
I'm not saying occasionaly players doing gamey move, I'm saying that if you use historical defence you cannot stop the German therefore you need the chessboard and so on.
The game is not a dog of course, but IMHO the scale chosen is totally wrong, they want to do a War in Europe but even a boardgame is more historical, and I know this word is relative because it is a game but still.
The OOB is impressive, the combat system is very very detailed but then you can move all units around the map as you wish, if you create a hole the enemy cannot react therefore strongpoints are useless.
Sorry it wasn't a personal attack or criticize your post, simply my expectation was so high that when it come out I had a big disappointment
Surely lot of people are happy about it, but see this kind of defence is a pain for my eyes, unfortunately this is the only good one in this situation:
Image taken from one of the last AAR in the Matrix forum.
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Sorry it wasn't a personal attack or criticize your post, simply my expectation was so high that when it come out I had a big disappointment
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Oh yes, but what I mean is that to setup an effective defence you have to do gamey move
I'm not saying occasionaly players doing gamey move, I'm saying that if you use historical defence you cannot stop the German therefore you need the chessboard and so on.
The game is not a dog of course, but IMHO the scale chosen is totally wrong, they want to do a War in Europe but even a boardgame is more historical, and I know this word is relative because it is a game but still.
The OOB is impressive, the combat system is very very detailed but then you can move all units around the map as you wish, if you create a hole the enemy cannot react therefore strongpoints are useless.
Sorry it wasn't a personal attack or criticize your post, simply my expectation was so high that when it come out I had a big disappointment
Surely lot of people are happy about it, but see this kind of defence is a pain for my eyes, unfortunately this is the only good one in this situation:
Image taken from one of the last AAR in the Matrix forum.
